Eruch discusses Meher Baba’s past lives, mentioning His time in Benaras, the Tibetan regions, and Kashmir after the crucifixion. Eruch clarifies that Baba’s body was brought to India, but not carried on a lifeless journey. He also explains that the roles of Baba’s close ones, like Judas, are preordained and necessary for His work. A letter from a close one in Atlanta prompted a response, and the topic of the special offices held by the first twelve companions of Baba was discussed. Eruch speculated on the roles of the twelve, including beloved, jester, singer, watchman, attendant, cook, manager, treasurer, physician, scribe, messenger, and critic. Mani added that each person represented an instrument through which Baba worked for the masses, not just the immediate circle. Meher Baba, during his time as Jesus, mentioned being at St. Mark’s Church in Venice, where the number of pillars and columns represented his great circle of 122 members. Baba emphasized the importance of preparing his circle, as their realization would benefit the entire universe by wiping out impressions and liberating others. While Baba occasionally hinted at past lives, he did not elaborate on his time in Venice or provide specific details about his circle members. Mani recounts Baba casually revealing that Mani was a man in Mani’s last incarnation and will be a man in Mani’s next incarnation.

Meher Baba’s form, though illusory, is a necessary tool for His followers to experience and understand His divine reality. His physical presence allowed His devotees to connect with Him and His teachings, making the inconceivable conceivable. Despite His teachings against idol worship, Baba permitted the creation of statues to provide comfort and a tangible connection to His followers. A prayer hall was built at Mehersthan with a life-size statue of Meher Baba, inscribed with eight messages emphasizing the importance of love over rituals and ceremonies. The messages highlight the heart as the true temple for worship and the significance of Mary’s purity as the mother of God. While angels experience infinite bliss and liberation, only humans can achieve God-realization through love. Eruch recounts a conversation about Baba’s infinite compassion and the impossibility of being lost forever. He shares a story about a person who was concerned about Baba’s warning that God would never forgive hypocrisy, but Eruch reassured them that God-man does forgive. Mani then shares stories of miraculous occurrences, including pictures of Baba appearing in unexpected places, which serve as signs of His presence and confirmation of His divinity