A Perfect Master, bound by the divine plan, cannot alter it, while an Avatar, like the Ancient One, possesses the authority to change it. The difference between their work is infinite. The conversation then shifts to a humorous anecdote about a man who, despite being warned of his impending death, is killed due to a series of unfortunate events. Masts, individuals in a state of divine intoxication, are often misunderstood and mistreated in the West, unlike in India where they are respected. Meher Baba, a Perfect Master, had a close friend named Bailey, who was initially resistant to visiting him but eventually became a devoted follower after a life-changing encounter. Baba’s influence extended beyond India, as he brought a mast named Mohammad to France for spiritual work. A disciple recounts a story about Meher Baba, highlighting His ability to instill unwavering faith in His followers. Despite witnessing seemingly miraculous events, the disciple emphasizes that Baba’s true gift was faith, even in situations that tested it. The disciple shares a personal experience of contemplating suicide due to Baba’s perceived indifference, only to forget the plan entirely, illustrating Baba’s subtle influence and power.

Bhau Kalchuri recounts a story of a Perfect Master and a Yogi, illustrating the futility of seeking external power and miracles. The Master, Meher Baba, demonstrates His power through subtle means, emphasizing the importance of inner realization and love over outward displays. Bhau also shares an anecdote about Dr. Ram Ginde, a neurologist who experienced Baba’s grace and witnessed a miraculous recovery, highlighting Baba’s love and compassion for His devotees. Baba, the Avatar, can alter the divine plan, unlike the Perfect Masters who are executors. A minor incarnation of God occurs when Baba comes to Earth for a specific purpose, not as extensive as a full Avatar. When experiencing anger, it is difficult to control, but one can offer it to Baba and seek forgiveness after calming down. Baba, nearing the end of His universal work, experienced intense spasms and instructed Bhau to pound His legs and chest, despite the pain it caused. Bhau, witnessing Baba’s dedication to His work, realized the depth of His commitment. On January 30th, after completing His work, Baba experienced severe spasms and repeatedly reminded Bhau that He was not His physical body, foreshadowing His passing the following day. After Meher Baba’s passing, Bhau was tasked with writing Baba’s biography and documenting His manifestation. Despite the immense pressure and lack of time, Bhau wrote tirelessly for months, often for 17-18 hours a day, with Baba’s internal guidance and encouragement. Bhau presented the completed work to Baba in December 1972, leaving the mandali and Irwin in awe of his dedication and the sheer volume of writing.

Bhau Kalchuri recounts his experiences with Meher Baba, including the loss of autographed books and manuscripts. He explains Baba’s teachings on the soul’s journey after death, the nature of heaven and hell, and the role of impressions in shaping future lives. Bhau emphasizes the importance of creating impressions for Baba, as they can transcend both good and bad karma. Past impressions are spent in new ways during each life, leading to new impressions and situations. Those in contact with the Divine experience paradise, a state of bliss beyond heaven and hell. God-realized souls achieve infinite bliss, while Perfect Masters, who achieve God-realization, also gain infinite knowledge and power, enabling them to work for the universe. Each heart is a telephone to God, and all will eventually realize this. God-realized souls experience a state of infinite bliss and may drop their bodies soon after realization. To achieve balance between passivity and aggression, reconcile through love for God rather than intellect, leaving decisions to Him and trusting in His will.

Bhau Kalchuri discusses the importance of surrendering to Meher Baba’s will and not worrying about the results of one’s actions. He emphasizes that even if the results are negative, following Baba’s will leads to inner gain and strength. Bhau illustrates this with a story about a wealthy man who loses everything in the desert but gains a deeper understanding of the insignificance of material wealth. A man, believing everything belongs to the Lord, should live as a caretaker, doing everything in His name with faith. Trust in God’s forgiveness is essential, as He forgives before one even asks. A story is shared about a man who repeatedly deceived Baba for money, claiming poverty, until a witness revealed his alcoholism, prompting Baba to stop giving him money. The man, initially driven out of his home for drinking, was touched by Baba’s kindness. This led him to start a business, stop drinking, and reconcile with his family.